So here’s a question: Why do the Liberal Democrats winning 8 council majorities seem to be annoying Labour voters so much?
I know the usual and obvious answer but let’s look at this logically. These are the councils the Liberal Democrats won:
Cheltenham – No Labour presence
Eastleigh – No Labour presence
Kingston – Okay Labour lost two seats here but they only had 2 anyway
Richmond – No Labour presence
South Cambridgeshire – Gained 1 seat, grand total of 2 out of 45 seats
South Lakeland – Gained 1 seat, grand total of 3 out of 51 seats
Sutton – No Labour presence
Three Rivers – Broke even, grand total of 3 out of 39 seats
These are not places where Labour is on the cusp of victory if only those pesky Liberal Democrats didn’t split their vote.
To assume that without the Lib Dems, Labour would be massive electoral forces on these councils is a huge leap from the more realistic answer that without the Liberal Democrats these councils would be pretty damn solid and impenetrable Tory majorities with an eclectic spate of independents and some minority presence from Labour or the Greens. Certainly not enough to challenge the majority.
I get that it’s annoying when your party isn’t always winning all the time, but surely we must all agree that any loss for the Tories is a gain for the nation as a whole at this point.
Unless you’re one of those people who genuinely think the Liberal Democrats are worse than the Tories, but if you think that frankly you’re beyond help and I don’t care to know you.
In a real democracy you don’t have a single person who can decide. Parliament has to vote on it, and head of state(s) need to ratify it (the EU is unusual in this regard, as it has 27 of the later). The EU Parliament had already a vote setting out the mandate for Barnier in terms of Phase 2 of the Brexit negotiations. Trying to negotiate anything outside that mandate now is a pointless theatre.
If the UK would have been serious about negotiations, they would have had to do it much earlier. By negotiating and lobbying directly with countries or EU fractions before the vote.
It is the “What can you offer us in return, if we vote for you on this?” game we are all too familiar with from US congress/senate debates. But for better or worse, this is the sad truth of any parliamentarian democracy. Trying to convince the majority of MEPs of your cause individually doesn’t really work, but a country might be able to convince most of it’s MEP’s to vote one way or another, if the intensives are good enough. And the fractions like the EPP works international, and could have been approached. The UK still has MEPs sitting in the EU Parliament, but doesn’t use them.
The Tories are too busy with internal conflicts and seem to have no time, no experience, or no interest in any meaningful negotiation. They are only interesting in preforming a played out meaningless negotiation via the media.
On the one hand I’m a Labour supporter who is happy that Jeremy Corbyn is leading Labour back to being a proper challenge to the Tories and their hideous government after Gordon Brown and Ed Miliband kind of screwed the pooch on the matter.
But on the other hand I’m a Liberal Democrat supporter who deep down is pissed off that what the aforementioned point does is help to reinforce the bullshit and broken two-party dynamic that’s been a complicit factor in throttling the life out of the democracy of this country and that desperately needs to be replaced.
… and yes, I said I’m partly a Liberal Democrat supporter. Bring on the anger.
I wonder how Theresa May squares this ‘Christian heritage’ malarkey and her own upbringing as the daughter of a vicar with the sheer cost to the lives and well-being of the poor, the sick, the hungry, the impoverished, the disabled, the oppressed, and the less-fortunate among our society not only that she herself has been directly responsible for in her capacity as Prime Minister and formerly Home Secretary, but also that the party she has devoted her life of public service to has wrought in its history.
If I ever interviewed her that’d be the first goddamn thing I’d ask.